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the geometric forms triangle square

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shapes that condense and form different

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shapes and when we doing experiments

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these shapes generally correlate with

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the intended target and of course there

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are sounds humming buzzing or their

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silences now you might look at that and

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say well that sounds like some of the

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UFO experiences and that's correct too

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so I'm pointing out that these

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experiences can occur at other kinds of

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saturations now sometimes in order to

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look at boundaries of perception I'm

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working with a colleague that lives in

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orlando florida I like to use very

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simple projects like this I test chart

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so the page from this optical book is on

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your left is target this is her response

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on the right which actually correlates

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very well with the vertical lines

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accepted shifts and that was a whole

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intention of the eye test do shift from

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one spot to the other but then like in

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most remote viewing situations she turns

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this into an animal or a far so the the

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tendency to analyze is ever present here

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was the same project only in a dream

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state and in this case the lines are

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very close to correlating with the

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intended target but again is a shift

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into interpreting and which are which in

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this case is no interpretation they're

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just pure lines I like to work with the

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future and my specialty you might say is

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trying to perceive the pictures that

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appear on newspapers in three days in

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the future three or five days in the

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future and these are two pictures that

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appeared in a local newspaper three days

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after the dream and I always sketch the

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ending of the dream which is the most

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reliable and the most accurate there

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were two pictures on that page the one

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on top then the one on the bottom the

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event had not occurred at the time of

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the dream the event occurred three days

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later two days later and was published

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three days later on the top you will

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notice that this doesn't really look

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like the picture but it was a sense of

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falling it was a sense of something like

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a parachute some kind of moisture coming

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down and it captured the essence the

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dynamics of the picture including some

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very specific details of the shade of

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the shadow

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that's right below the dog that light

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dark pattern in this case the accuracy

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was off but the timing seemed to be on

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in terms of the momentum on the bottom

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picture they've timing is off but the

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accuracy of the picture is better

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because I have to presume that the dog

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actually did catch that in the next

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frame remember these pictures did not

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exist at the time of the dream the event

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occurred three days later so there's a

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slight hint of an uncertainty principle

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here accurate in time trade-off in

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position accurate in position trade off

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in time I've seen this over the years

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and some of the projects I worked on I

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like this one is the painting of a

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Peruvian shaman after one of his shaman

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attorneys drinking the brew our Houska

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think I pronounced that right with the

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drug DMT and I don't quite know how to

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pounce that dimethyl tribe feta mean now

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in this what's interesting here is the

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senator top is a spacecraft that's what

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he describes as a spacecraft and those

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are aliens or people that inhabit that

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spacecraft that come out to meet him

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there's a lot of cultural stuff there's

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a lot of archetypal stuff in here as

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well but this because Peruvian shamans

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tend to have a tendency to see UFOs so

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if you want to see a UFO I suppose you

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should go to the Amazon so what have I

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come to after all these years I think

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that some UFOs are internal imagery and

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they're generated totally by the

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individual this could be some kind of an

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archetypal archetypal thing it could be

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something from the collective

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unconscious it could be some kind of

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buried hidden need that the individual

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has to have the experience there also

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some from terrestrial sources you might

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be in the position of the position or

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close to a high par magnetic field

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electromagnetic radar generation that

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might generate some of these but even

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more significant some of these can be

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transferred from one person to another

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by intention I know a lot of cases where

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somebody sees UFOs when somebody who has

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good psychic abilities say look up in

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the sky there's a UFO and they see them

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but they don't all see the same thing so

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there is a transfer and I think in the

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Hindu tradition to call at shakti the

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transfer of energy

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the transfer imagery in the abductions

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if not most of them are lucid dreams on

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the body experiences or the one that's

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really more riveting others a

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transpersonal wine I believe that many

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of them a trauma links and some that

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might be linked to the drug DMT which is

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some researchers suspect is generated by

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the pineal pine-needle plan and of

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course some are unexplainable and you've

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heard a lot about that so far

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implications I think that there really

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is a collective imaginal domain that

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does have an existence it's real in a

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psychological sense but not in a literal

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sense and somehow has a reality all to

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itself I also suspect now then

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space-time is represented somewhere

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there's a representation of space-time

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at county park somewhere let's like

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Halle a holographic pattern which can

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record and also code information in

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space-time and through our conscious

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subconscious mind we can interact with

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it providing the needs and the

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intentions are focused properly

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sometimes it's an intentional thing a

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planned thing like in remote viewing for

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example and I also think at this stage

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that the two biggest problems of saw in

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terms of trying to reconcile a from a

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scientific point of view or precognition

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and macro PK and if you think about

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space-time being represented in some

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representation representation on space

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then I'm beginning to think that

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precognition is a projection feature of

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that space time so that what we perceive

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as the future is not really in the

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future but it's now and projected from

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all known information that's in this

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representation in space macro PK then

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follows because now with the

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representational space then as a matter

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of somehow interacting with the forms

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the energy forms whatever that are in a

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representational space and changing them

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around and then acquitting or then

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leaving the experience or changing the

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shapes and of course I think it's also

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important to keep in mind that inside

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some individual experiences are

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important but keeping in mind that each

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one has a different sensing and a

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different interpretation which

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totally changes from individual to

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horseshoes inside all right questions

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one of the back this my question or

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observation addresses but a small part

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of what you illustrate it the the point

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that connected for me both in terms of

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your near-death experience and the the

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wounding that sometimes appears

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following a traumatic night inside your

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town suggested Ian Stevens work with the

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past live carryover for instance if

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there was a traumatic death and some

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injury had occurred to a part of the

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body in the process that the that

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birthmarks would show up on people in in

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sessions where they were reexamining

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this material and if the if the if there

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is such a thing as reincarnation then

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the dream state between lives might not

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be that different from that between

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nighttime and daytime for allowing for

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that kind of a transmission you have any

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comment on that I think you're right on

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that and whatever I use the term

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imaginal or collective unconscious but

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you can add other terms to that some

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kind of transitional stage or phase some

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some non reality domain we get is very

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real now I can relate to that and I

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think there's something to it something

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to your concept there yes uh they've got

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a question the picture that you had from

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Peru yeah I thought believe the

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substances are using is ayahuasca yeah

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this is every dealt with the current

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dentals are found that the when you talk

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to them we talk about separate states

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of consciousness and you've not about

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waiting asleep when you talk with the

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code of dentals it's like these states

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are contiguous I mean they just move

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smoothly between them is what if you

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could comment on you know what way is

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that we have a distinct separation they

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see no separation at all seem to move

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fluidly yes the practice Jonin

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apparently does that you know sometimes

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wonder if he would need to indulge in

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any kind of rude but the beginners so

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the apprentices appears to be able to

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need that thing so what the shamans in

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true in other places do is very similar

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to the dream yoga approach from Tibet

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and that part of the country they're

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different terms but the ultimate goal is

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to have this continuous awareness

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whether your so-called asleep or not you

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know you can do this awareness one last

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question I wonder if you could be back

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that diagram that colored guy Graham